Patricia Crawford has lived in Houston, Texas, for her whole life, providing her with multiple experiences with hurricanes and tropical storms. When describing her experience with Hurricane Harvey, Crawford mentions how rough the storm was on most people, especially those who lived along the bayou. In the early hours of Harvey, Crawford remained unaware of the seriousness until her cousin’s husband informed her she needed to evacuate. When she stepped out of bed, she stepped in water. She revealed fear when she understood the significance of the situation. Her cousin’s husband took her and her dog to his home, where they were luckily at a high elevation, so the water only reached the porch. Crawford discusses FEMA’s aid for property damages, although she stated the money did not amount to much. Another organization that Crawford received help from was her church, Fifth Ward Baptist, showing her the support of her community. Unfortunately, Crawford admitted that the relief efforts impacted her community slowly and poorly. Crawford discusses her worry for long-term challenges post-Harvey and how her community has a long way before things return to the way they were before Harvey. Concluding her interview, Crawford offers advice for those in a similar situation as Harvey – mainly to remain positive, push through the hardships, and not give up hope.
Read on for the full transcript of the interview:
Interviewee: Patricia Crawford
Interview Date: April 25, 2019
Place: Houston, Texas
Interviewers: Bryan Salazar and Emiliano Orozco
Transcriber: Bryan Salazar
BS: Hi, today is April 25, 2019. My name is Bryan Salazar and I am conducting this interview for the Center for Public History at the University of Houston. Can we start with your name and birthdate?
PC: My name is Patricia Crawford. My birthdate is January 16th, 1944.
BS: Thank you. How long has your family lived in Houston?
PC: All my life.
BS: All your life.
PC: [chuckles]
BS: Now, let’s discuss a little bit of your past experience with hurricanes and how is [stutters briefly] Harvey different than any storm you’ve been in?
PC: For one thing it was [ stutters briefly] a rough start. Very rough. No one would be able to tell you [ stutters and pauses throughout this sentence], uh especially out in these areas that they came through, come through okay. [ stutters again] It was rough, you know. The bayous, [ pauses] all the you know. That was rough. You know. Some people, survived. Some people went through a lot. And I mean a lot, if you could of just, maybe, maybe some of the pictures that my nephew can get them to you, you will see, I mean it was just [ pauses for a while] things just piled on the street, you know furniture and mattresses, just you know it was, it was, rough. It was different. That was a storm that you couldn’t be, no way. No. Some people could, cause they weren’t in the area, some people could not, and they tried, they fought, and some are still fighting.
BS: How did you see your community and your neighborhood in those first new days?
PC: How did I see…. [pauses] Like a river, I mean they had [pauses], oh what do you call it, people had boats getting people out of their houses. Firetrucks trying to get people out of their houses.
EO: Did you have to get out on a boat yourself?
PC: No, cause I was in, next door.
EO: oh, okay. When it happened.
PC: When it happened. My cousin’s husband. [stutters] I didn’t even know it was happening. And he came and knocked on the door and came in and said, “ you got to get out of here. ” And I said, “ what’s happening?” And when I stepped out the bed, I stepped in water.
BS: Wow. Water had already rushed in.
PC: That’s it.
EO: Did it happened while you were like sleeping?
PC: I was asleep.
EO: Wow, that’s real scary.
BS: To just wake up and see water….
PC: [interrupts interviewer] you know not see the water, but to step down and you stepping in the water.
BS: Can you describe those first initial days after the storm, how you saw your home, and how you saw your street and.
PC: Have you ever seen a dog that could swim? My dog could swim. He could swim. Yeah [ pauses and stutters], I’m going to go back to my cousin, he took me over to their house right next door. Just so happen, their house sitting high and as far as the water got, was on the porch.
BS: Wow.
EO: Did it enter their house?
PC: No. And I stayed there until [ long pause] the next…. day. And that next day, that’s when my girlfriend and her children come and got me. Come and got some of my clothes. They couldn’t get anymore because there wasn’t anything to get, they were all wet and nasty and you know, couldn’t do nothing with them. And they lived in Humble.
BS: oh, okay.
PC: So, nothing happened out there. What happened out there, happened further out, yeah.
BS: Not located right in the city.
PC: Not right there in humble. So, it was just [takes a pause] it was amazing.
EO: Did you end up staying somewhere else, eventually or did you stay [inaudible section]?
PC: No, I stayed next door only two days and then I stayed with my girlfriend [pauses] for one year.
EO: Did you have to get on a boat to get out, or by this time had the water..
PC: [interrupts Emilano] yeah, the water had settled.
BS: And after, [pauses] during that one year process, that year you were gone, how did you receive aid from local authorities or other agencies, to help you with the rebuilding process.
PC: Did I receive aid?
BS: Yes.
PC: Yeah. I received, um, what they called it, what was that.
BS: FEMA
PC: Yeah, FEMA gave you a little help. Wasn’t no big deal. You had to just fight, you had to fight to get yourself together. FEMA didn’t give you enough money to even [pauses]… I would say not even [long pause] FEMA didn’t give you enough money to do nothing.
BS: Instead other agencies or ….
PC: Other agencies helped pretty good.
BS: And other maybe like local church……
PC: The only church that I received help from, was my church. I don’t know about any other church, yeah but I’m quite sure it was, but you know I guess people, I guess people did what they could, what FEMA gave them to work with, you know.
EO: What was the name of your church?
PC: Fifth Ward Baptist.
EO: Did you ever get together with your community or church, or different ways to discuss what had happened after the flood, after the hurricane. I guess how was the community dealing with this? Both the church and outside?
PC: Now or then?
EO: Then.
PC: [long pause] You know, there were some churches where FEMA gave them a lot of help, to help people, some churches they didn’t. [stuttering] I would say I hate that, there were some big-time churches, you know, I would say it like that. They [long pause] they gave some churches some money, they really gave them some money to help people. But I said, if [ stutters] there was ever a time that I would [long pause] If I had money, I would give my church money to help people. Yeah [ long pause] I really would. Now it’s a second thing that’s going on now, some churches, not only churches I don’t wanna pinpoint that only but there are some places that their giving money to now, to help people. Yeah. [ inaudible section with interviews] Now they had to go back and help people.
BS: Even more than a year later?
PC: That’s it. That’s it.
BS: How did you see the [ pauses] situation improve over time?
PC: Oh, okay. Because I was going to fight for myself, you know, like I said [ pauses] like all the things need now would be doors, they didn’t have fixed my burglar bar doors still hanging off yeah, my doors are still hanging but on the inside very few things, you know, like kitchen, there’s you know little mold in the kitchen, you know and…. [ long pause] like I don’t know what they call this doing there, you see the hump going through the door there I don’t know what they call itself. It’s a hump, you know [ chuckles], I don’t know what they call itself doing, yeah, if you’re going to do something do it right. But the. I just fight for, I fight for myself. Yeah, yeah. And I’m still trying [ stutters] to get some things done, you know, I hope I can.
EO: So how did the relief efforts impact your community?
PC: How did, the what?
EO: The relief efforts, how did it impact your community as a whole?
PC: [ long pause] It was slow and poor.
BS: Slow and Poor.
PC: Cause there are just finishing a young lady’s house, I think about the third house, they had to redo her whole house, [ long pause] tear down and redo the whole house. The house across over here, across the street, [ speaks softer] they haven’t done anything to the house.
EO: Are their people living there right now?
PC: No, and as you go on down the street there are houses that haven’t been fixed, nothing done. So, it’s still a slow process and an undone process.
BS: Did you see many people move out of the neighborhood and not return? Or…
PC: Yeah, because [ stutters] I think on this street here, the house is empty [ points to the street]
EO: This one?
PC: It’s a house next door to this house, no one returned.
EO: They probably got another spot.
PC: I hope so.
EO: So, does your neighborhood face any long-term challenges that are unique to the community?
PC: Any long term what?
EO: Any long-term challenges that are unique to the community?
PC: Yeah [soft spoken]. [ long pause] There are some people [soft spoken] how do I put this for you, there are some people long term challenges… [ long pause and very soft spoken] Yeah, there are a lot of houses on this street, you know, you can look at see [very soft spoken] they didn’t do anything and the people just take them, take the house as is. Because they will say, what must I do, how can I. Some of them just don’t know.
EO: Yeah, its tough to figure that out, a year after. Especially if it’s like a bunch of damages. Some are beyond repair.
PC: Right.
EO: So, what would you want people to understand about Harvey’s impact? Maybe if you were to speak with somebody not from Houston, not from the neighborhood, just somebody that fully doesn’t understand.
BS: What do you want people to know from your experience?
PC: From my experience.
EO: Or just in general.
PC: You know, from my experience I would say don’t give up, [soft spoken] don’t give up. Keep fighting because if you don’t, they are not going to give it to you. You got to fight for it, yeah.
EO: It’s unfortunate that you have to try so hard, where it should be [ stutters] it should be obvious or local government themselves that should be ready to tackle something on like that. Especially if, I mean of course there has been hurricanes and floods in the U.S before, so you think at least put a system in place to make it easier for him or her.
PC: That’s right. Yep.
EO: Thank you for that advice.
BS: Thank you.
EO: That was the last question that we had for you, now is there anything else that you would like to say before we end the interview.
PC: If there is any way, that there are some people that you talk to, some of them can give you advice, well I wouldn’t say advice, because you would need [ stutters] you really wouldn’t need their advice, but you would need [long pause]. What word am I looking for, you would need what must I do, give me [ pauses and stutters] [ long pause]. Where should I start, what do you think I should do about this.
EO: Like direction?
PC: Yes, give me some direction. Some people just need some directions.
BS: They need some pointers and some guidance.
PC: That’s right.
EO: Especially in a case where you don’t know what to do.
PC: That’s right.
EO: I know it caused a lot of trauma for some people and like I said earlier now whenever there is a storm, people get really worried.
PC: That’s it.
EO: Like Trauma.
PC: First thing that comes to their mind, oh wow, here comes another storm.
BS: Yeah. Might have to go through the same cycle.
EO: Well that concludes our interview, thank you for your time and inviting us to your home, I really appreciate it.
BS: Thank you for your time.
PC: You’re quite welcome.
BS: This was Bryan Salazar and…
EO: Emiliano Orozco….
BS: Conducting this interview for the Center for Public History Program at the University of Houston. Thank you for your time, Ms. Crawford.
PC: You’re quite welcome.